During the commentary, I took notes on what I found interesting and, more importantly, what could relate back to my essay points.
- Chaplin-esque
- Overacting is key to toon performance
- Frank - "Tex Avery style"
- Transition shot causes audience to suspend their disbelief to believe toons could walk around the 3D world
- First time "all the studios who own cartoon characters allowed them to be in a competing studio's movie"
- Hollywood segregated by humans and cartoons
- "actually about civil rights"
- "only be made if animators understand Tex Avery style"
- red car: "there has to be a real story"
- brother death is the *reason* eddie hates toons
- cartoons swearing was a "big disney problem"
- stage of club built 8ft in the air to accomodate puppeteers
- first and last time donald and daffy will ever be together
- "hungarian rhapsody"
- acme has direct link to roadrunner (YISS)
- animators included their own inside jokes
- homages / inside jokes to old animators
- jessica doesn't have a nose? or waist. not meant to seem like rotoscoping
- roger has no shoulders
- scene shot with dancer, then again without
- people were "tittering", "shocked and nervous"; breast movements, "so exaggerated as a woman it'd blow everyone's mind"
- jessica meant to look both "sexy and toony" - rz
- reverse anatomical movements; normal breasts down, jessica breasts up
- moves "very impossibly"
- richard williams "followed women"?
- ROGER FLIPPING THE PICTURES!!!
- roger animated on top of robotic arms and rigs
- toons drinking was a major discussion
- leaving imprint in the window
- combines toon music with overall score
- sober detective was the rebel that darth vader strangled in star wars. i thought that was cool.
- "[toontown was] supposed to be nuts"
- "how do you kill a toon" considered
- 2nd act starts 28 mins in
- "toon effects do physical things"
- shot like a regular movie
- judge doom's toon characteristics; chin, fake teeth, cape flapping
- doom never blinks
- originally, weasels were "mutant seven dwarfs"
- dip is made of components used to clean cels (acetone, benzine)
- not blood, red paint on doom's glove
- williams insisted on animating baby herman
- cigar was debated to be made animated or live action; the latter was chosen
- baby herman originally the villain
- jessica also the villain at one point
- acme's will is the macguffin
- squash and stretch achieved with an elastic bungee when roger's being pulled off the doorframe
- live action filming done before animation
- roger enters bottom drawer, reappears from top drawer
- lighting effects on toons would "look cool"
- toon rules
- toons always cast shadows to "make scenes a little bit better"
- articulated suction cups picked up plates and broke them
- exposure changed on roger's cels depending on lighting
- "quite a looney selection for a bunch of drunken reprobates"
- weasels *always* laugh at anyone's misfortune
- toon can't resist finishing "shave and a haircut, two bits"
- theatre shot is the longest continuous animation shot in the whole film
- moving the camera made animation easier; reverse was a myth
- collected animation cels
- cameraman knew principles of animation
- squash and stretch
- gun reflection matches poster
- never got the rights to animate felix the cat
- yosemite sam gave valiant a pistol
- drive through toontown tunnel was all miniature
- toontown is all bluescreen w/ eddie
- cartoon physics affect humans once you're in toontown
- when holding onto bar, bob hoskins was actually horizontal
- falling shot was just camera moving away really quickly
- characters stay true to their personalities; mickey wouldn't pull a cruel trick, but bugs would
- toon rule: toons will follow lines on road, smack bang into the wall
- night falls very quickly in toontown
- shadow talks to valiant
- multiplane camera used in toontown to add depth for valiant
- 3rd act begins 1hr 17mins in
- 3 films at once; 48 animated movie, a serial piece, and a special effects movie
- "understated absurdity"
- blend of looney tunes and film noir music
- toon props had to figure into the solution to the story
- doom throws valiant in "quite a toony way"
- flat doom was a stop motion puppet??? nice
- add things to make audience believe the toon stuff is in frame
- miniature doom machine going through "baby brick" wall
- debated ending with porky pig, a WB character; until tinkerbell was added
- Overacting is key to toon performance
- Frank - "Tex Avery style"
- Transition shot causes audience to suspend their disbelief to believe toons could walk around the 3D world
- First time "all the studios who own cartoon characters allowed them to be in a competing studio's movie"
- Hollywood segregated by humans and cartoons
- "actually about civil rights"
- "only be made if animators understand Tex Avery style"
- red car: "there has to be a real story"
- brother death is the *reason* eddie hates toons
- cartoons swearing was a "big disney problem"
- stage of club built 8ft in the air to accomodate puppeteers
- first and last time donald and daffy will ever be together
- "hungarian rhapsody"
- acme has direct link to roadrunner (YISS)
- animators included their own inside jokes
- homages / inside jokes to old animators
- jessica doesn't have a nose? or waist. not meant to seem like rotoscoping
- roger has no shoulders
- scene shot with dancer, then again without
- people were "tittering", "shocked and nervous"; breast movements, "so exaggerated as a woman it'd blow everyone's mind"
- jessica meant to look both "sexy and toony" - rz
- reverse anatomical movements; normal breasts down, jessica breasts up
- moves "very impossibly"
- richard williams "followed women"?
- ROGER FLIPPING THE PICTURES!!!
- roger animated on top of robotic arms and rigs
- toons drinking was a major discussion
- leaving imprint in the window
- combines toon music with overall score
- sober detective was the rebel that darth vader strangled in star wars. i thought that was cool.
- "[toontown was] supposed to be nuts"
- "how do you kill a toon" considered
- 2nd act starts 28 mins in
- "toon effects do physical things"
- shot like a regular movie
- judge doom's toon characteristics; chin, fake teeth, cape flapping
- doom never blinks
- originally, weasels were "mutant seven dwarfs"
- dip is made of components used to clean cels (acetone, benzine)
- not blood, red paint on doom's glove
- williams insisted on animating baby herman
- cigar was debated to be made animated or live action; the latter was chosen
- baby herman originally the villain
- jessica also the villain at one point
- acme's will is the macguffin
- squash and stretch achieved with an elastic bungee when roger's being pulled off the doorframe
- live action filming done before animation
- roger enters bottom drawer, reappears from top drawer
- lighting effects on toons would "look cool"
- toon rules
- toons always cast shadows to "make scenes a little bit better"
- articulated suction cups picked up plates and broke them
- exposure changed on roger's cels depending on lighting
- "quite a looney selection for a bunch of drunken reprobates"
- weasels *always* laugh at anyone's misfortune
- toon can't resist finishing "shave and a haircut, two bits"
- theatre shot is the longest continuous animation shot in the whole film
- moving the camera made animation easier; reverse was a myth
- collected animation cels
- cameraman knew principles of animation
- squash and stretch
- gun reflection matches poster
- never got the rights to animate felix the cat
- yosemite sam gave valiant a pistol
- drive through toontown tunnel was all miniature
- toontown is all bluescreen w/ eddie
- cartoon physics affect humans once you're in toontown
- when holding onto bar, bob hoskins was actually horizontal
- falling shot was just camera moving away really quickly
- characters stay true to their personalities; mickey wouldn't pull a cruel trick, but bugs would
- toon rule: toons will follow lines on road, smack bang into the wall
- night falls very quickly in toontown
- shadow talks to valiant
- multiplane camera used in toontown to add depth for valiant
- 3rd act begins 1hr 17mins in
- 3 films at once; 48 animated movie, a serial piece, and a special effects movie
- "understated absurdity"
- blend of looney tunes and film noir music
- toon props had to figure into the solution to the story
- doom throws valiant in "quite a toony way"
- flat doom was a stop motion puppet??? nice
- add things to make audience believe the toon stuff is in frame
- miniature doom machine going through "baby brick" wall
- debated ending with porky pig, a WB character; until tinkerbell was added
So they talked a lot more about the making of the film, over the themes of it. However, a lot of what they talk about related back to my points about certain characters, specifically Jessica Rabbit. This commentary also gave me a lot to work with in terms of talking about the film's antagonist, Judge Doom. There was a lot of things the team pointed out that I'd never noticed before; so much so I think it could be worth dedicating a paragraph to him.
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